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[Matchday] [Premier League] Everton vs Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
18-04-2019, 10:24 PM (This post was last modified: 20-04-2019 01:28 PM by Clint-TheyCallMePapii.)
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[Premier League] Everton vs Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Kick Off at 13:30 | Goodison Park


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Team News:
- Alexis tipped to start.
- Shaw suspended 2nd of 2 match ban being served. Rojo could deputize again.
- Matic fit and Herrera may miss yet another game.
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18-04-2019, 10:44 PM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Lose this and the top 4 is gone for certain.
Utd cannot drop points again this season as rat race could come to a quick conclusion with 3 games being played in the next 7 days.
Sun - Everton, Wed - City, Sun - Chelsea. If we can get 7/9 points, we can take the race for 3rd and 4th to the final day of the season. Slim chance of 4th if we can get 6/9. But less than 6 and is Europa League for us doomed sods.

We have to rotate and ignore the circumstances that are;
- De Gea and Pogba have downed tools.
- Young has been retired by the intensity of the football.
- Herrera seems to have either crossed a line with Utd or has lost his legs in the business end of the season.Neither sounds good for him.
- All our forwards are out of form .
- We have a new batch of deadwood to add to the existing deadwood. Ole's job just got tougher over the last 4 months. Time waits for no man, mediocrity has gripped more players like a contagious virus.

I'd rotate:

De Gea
Dalot Lindelof Smalling Rojo
Pogba Fred Matic
Lukaku Alexis Martial

Subs: Romero, Young,Jones, McTominay,Mata, Lingard, Rashford
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19-04-2019, 09:35 AM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
I've reached the point of indifference again. All I know is that I don't want to see De Gea play for us again until he gets his head out of his ass.
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19-04-2019, 12:20 PM (This post was last modified: 19-04-2019 05:48 PM by Clint-TheyCallMePapii.)
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Ole spoke at length about giving certain players a reality check. He says Martial was one of them.

The most problematic characters on the pitch are:

1st - Rashford - Treated like Rooney plays like Welbeck.
2nd - Pogba - Luxury player.
3rd - De Gea - Has made a dozen errors this season alone.
4th - Martial/Lukaku - Lacking desire and the professionalism to give 100%.
5th - Lingard - Offers nothing productive yet starts many games.

The rest are either not good enough, too old, past it, deadwood, too young or frauds. Some just need to adapt and improve like Lindelof, Dalot, Fred while others like Shaw and McTominay need to continue developing.

Those 6 players plus the other senior players over the age of 28 seem to be causing most of the issues on the field.

Ole is doing his job and managing the situation but he's probably fully aware he is handling a rotten bunch of players.

They simply lack the football ability. Its a squad built with low standards in mind.
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19-04-2019, 04:50 PM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
All of them need a reality check. They clearly took the foot off the gas after PSG. Unprofessional frauds who talk a big game and yet they have no idea what Manchester United is all about.

Honestly, Ole has to do what Fergie did. Offload all the players who can't live up to the club's standards, keep the few worthy ones and buy hungry up and comers who want to succeed at the top level. IF we do this, I'm willing to wait 2-3 years until we become competitive again. But we have to see evident improvement. Like we've seen with Liverpool since Klopp took over.

There's no fixing this squad. Too many has beens, too many never will bes , too many mercenaries.
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19-04-2019, 06:28 PM (This post was last modified: 19-04-2019 06:38 PM by Clint-TheyCallMePapii.)
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Costas -

The job is not impossible but under Ed Woodward it is impossible. The conditions to succeed at this club becomes untenable under any self respecting manager who works for this pig ignorant arrogant cunt. There is a reason why Moyes hardly complains about Woodward and the structure and why LVG and Maureen have spoken about it frequently post NDA clause. Moyes really was not qualified in any way for the job while the others were experienced has beens.

Klopp and the board at Liverpool operate on similar finances to Utd given our debt is a equalizer in terms of financial power in the market.

In 3 windows:
- Klopp brought in 14 1st teamers with the goal of improving the 1st team. In that process losing 14 1st teamers.
- Factually its 20 In and 36 Out.

Had United been a well managed club under Woodward, we would have recruited a Berta, Mislintat, Monchi, Rangnick or Campos for this role of sporting director in 2016 to help Mourinho succeed more efficiently and time effectively or 2014 for LVG after the embarrassing summer of 2013.

In 2019, we had the opportunity again to recruit one of the world's best talent spotters in Paul Mitchell, with pedigree and a Englishmen with roots in Manchester and supporter of the club. Woodward hasn't even bothered, he gave the job to his mate Murtough and it will be announced once the summer window opens. It's another PR exercise, rather than announce structural change we will reshuffle the pack. As if it's done the trick,

Late last year one of the best directors in England who was available (Les Reed) explained why United needed to understand the role of Director of Football, sporting director and technical director and choose one. Woodward has ignored all the constructive feedback given to him from Gary Neville and Les Reed and many other commentators who have witnessed Man United's sharp decline in the Woodward Era.

Ed Woodward could easily please the Glazers and tug himself off to appointing a Paul Mitchell and taking the limelight for it. But the sinister truth is Woodward believes he is a excellent footballing brain with expertise with vast knowledge and he will not concede power in any form.

I honestly think someone like Pochettino would have resigned in September after the window had he wanted the job this summer. There is a difference between operating in austerity and surviving under incompetence and that's what managing under Woodward is.
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19-04-2019, 08:33 PM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Woodward does what he does bc the Glazers let him. He brings in enough revenue for them to pay the debt and still take a shitload of money out. Why would he surrender any authority if they are not telling him todo so? Their running of their NFL team is similar in style and results. The fact we don’t wingers who can float in a cross consistently speaks volumes. We are a marketing firm that has a football team.

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The Wayne boy play. Only seen him in exhibition play. Hope he plays well for our game
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19-04-2019, 10:19 PM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs, Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Nice Buffalo, glad Rooney is doing well out there. He's kept himself in good shape to and not half arsing it like Gerrard did.
Have fun mate.

Woodward is comfortable satisfying the Glazers in terms of revenues, profits , dividends and structuring the debt into a manageable repayment plan. Like owning a property, that debt will always be there, slowly decreasing. It's only a issue if we ever wanted to build a new stadium or renovate OT extensively which would require borrowing that the company can't afford given how largely leveraged the club is in debt since the takeover.

You would think after 6 seasons, Woodward have some professional pride and integrity and appoint a footballing men at the club as a support network. Most clubs do not have the resources of this club so an austere United would produce reasonable conditions for most sporting figures. The job role of being Technical director of this club is very attractive however what Woodward is advertising is such a ugly token role. Woodward has advertised the role of public martyr rather than Head of Recruitment or Technical director.

I feel bad for Ole that he has this job. He will help as much as he can on the pitch, but like all coaches he is only as good as the players he has. The recruitment has to be perfect in the next 2-3 summer windows and that is not a promise anyone at the club can make as its a badly run football club.

A marketing firm with a football team sounds spot on.
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20-04-2019, 01:52 PM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
City just beat Spurs. If we can get past Everton, we go level with Spurs.

This is strange. Confused

I want 3rd or 4th but I don't want Liverpool to win the league ever, but I also don't want to support City against Utd and we need wins desperately for a place in the CL.

So midweek, Liverpool are rooting for us Icon_lol

The ideal thing would be, we overcome Everton away, Liverpool drop points to Cardiff, we draw with City, then go a run of wins over Chelsea and the remaining games. That hopefully would secure us CL and scupper Liverpools dreams in one go.
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21-04-2019, 11:22 AM
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RE: [Premier League] Everton vs Manchester Utd (21/04/19)
Starting XI: De Gea ©, Jones, Lindelof, Smalling, Dalot, Fred, Matic, Pogba, Lukaku, Martial, Rashford
Subs: Romero, Young, Andreas, Lingard, Mata, McTominay, Alexis
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21-04-2019, 11:36 AM
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Fuck De Gea. Ole is allowing player power to get the best of him. Just like Mourinho did.
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21-04-2019, 11:37 AM
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And I really hope McTom is just rested ahead of Wednesday. Matic shouldn't be starting ahead of him anymore
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21-04-2019, 12:17 PM
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Costas it's rotation mate

Also Ole could either jepordise top 4 by dropping Dave or showing some man management and give Dave a bollocking for his bullshit.

He did save us last weekend against West ham.

He's a problem we don't want to escalate at this point in the season. We have way too many.
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21-04-2019, 12:27 PM
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Started off crap
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21-04-2019, 12:30 PM
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The nightmare continues

Everton score 1-0

From a fucking throw.
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21-04-2019, 12:31 PM
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Papii, that's how players become more powerful than the manager. Because we "can't afford to drop them" while a target is still alive.

Never mind the fact that Sir Alex dropped David Beckham at the climax of a title race...

De Ge has no place in this team anymore. He doesn't act or play like it.
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21-04-2019, 12:33 PM
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Look at all of them out there. Hopeless, useless and aware of the fact that most of them won't be here next season.
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21-04-2019, 12:36 PM
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11 straight games of conceding goals.
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21-04-2019, 12:37 PM
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These players have downed tools.

Absolutely done nothing for 20 minutes.
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21-04-2019, 12:41 PM
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Costas - 8 of those players are certain to be here next season.

Watching this with relatives and one of my cousins just said " you was 7th 5 years ago. 6th again, just put the telly off. ".

I am considering it.
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